Last December, Google launched its Print Library Project to scan books from the collections of several major libraries: Harvard, Michigan, Stanford, Oxford, and the New York Public Library.
Google explained: "Our ultimate goal is to work with publishers and libraries to create a comprehensive, searchable, virtual card catalog of all books in all languages that helps users discover new books and publishers find new readers."
Sounds like a win-win-win-win for readers, authors, publishers, and libraries alike, right? But as we have seen with other media migrating to the Internet, such a project raises a number of questions about intellectual property rights, fair use, piracy, access, ownership, distribution, compensation, and control. This fall, the Authors Guild and the Association of American Publishers filed lawsuits against Google, citing massive copyright infringement.
LIVE from the NYPL and WIRED Magazine present a provocative discussion about the competing interests and issues raised by the Google Print Library Project, and whether a universal digital repository of our collective knowledge is in our future.
Allan Adler is Vice President for Legal Governmental Affairs at the Association of American Publishers (AAP), the national trade organization which represents the US book and journal publishing industries.
Chris Anderson is the WIRED Magazine’s Editor-in-Chief and is the author of the forthcoming book on his “Long Tail” theory. WIRED is the recipient of the 2005 National Magazine Award for General Excellence and Anderson was recently named Advertising Age’s Editor of the Year.
David Drummond is Google’s Vice President, Corporate Development and works with Google’s management team to evaluate and drive new strategic business opportunities, including strategic alliances and mergers and acquisitions. He also serves as Google’s general counsel.
David Ferriero is the Andrew W. Mellon Director and Chief Executive of the Research Libraries at the New York Public Library and is charged with moving the four world-renowned Research Libraries into the 21st Century.
Paul LeClerc has been President and Chief Executive Officer of The New York Public Library for the past twelve years. He also serves as a trustee of the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, the National Book Foundation, and the American Academy of Rome. President Clinton named him to the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities.
Lawrence Lessig is a professor at Stanford Law School, the Founder and Chairman of Creative Commons, and the author of Code, The Future of Ideas, and Free Culture: The Nature and Future of Creativity.
Nick Taylor is a best-selling author, the President of the Authors Guild, and an advocate of copyright and fair contracts. In addition, he is a director of the Authors Guild Foundation and a member of the literary organization PEN.
500 years from printing press to internet
magnitude of change
nyc public domain works only re: deal with google
to provide free an open access by collecting conserving, etc and providing access to all people.
Posted: November 17, 2005 7:26 PM
Chris Anderson is moderating. Discuss form for opt in an opt-out for publishers.
Google classifies books 3 classes of books. 2 have caused lawsuits
Posted: November 17, 2005 7:29 PM
Nick Taylor is talking. He filed a lawsuit against Google.
He complains that Google includes authors without asking.
Posted: November 17, 2005 7:31 PM
Anyone know the webcast username/password for this event?
Posted: November 17, 2005 7:44 PM
I think they turned off the wi-fi at the library after hrs. Here is the rest of my notes (not even close to complete by any means):
nick: google will create a major value. Why shouldn't the author share in the value?
lessig: this is the crucial question.
copyright law has never allowed for full ownership. Fair use is important to build upon and innovate, comment on, etc.
Alan Alder: google is making the largest library. They copy all books in entirety for its own business purposes.
lessig: Should used books store share with the authors? No, there are limits to copyright law.
Alder: Making arguments based on physical copies of books.
David Drummond: Whats the harm?
Nick: Google is taking away opportunity, and then exploiting it.
David: We leave it to the publisher to decide. It's just an electronic library card catalog. The main dif is that it is in digital form instead of on a physical card.
Alder: Why not scan library cards?
Drummond: Because Google can do it better than it has been done before by scanning entire books and making snippets avil related to that search (without revealing the rest of the related contents of any works that may be copyrighted)
Lessig and Drummond are going at it.
Lessig: If you control everything - every single copy has control - this is bad. It slows innovation.
Anderson: Publishers interests vs. Authors interests? They are not always aligned.
Alder: Says that in this case they are in the same boat. The issue is that Google is a commercial enterprise.
someone asked: How does Google book search take away opportunity?
Lessigs main points on the detail: If publishers shut off access and require Google to ask first, then it makes it #1 too many people that can't be contacted. #2 if they cause google to pay a fee, then other upstarts wont be able to compete because smaller companies wont be able to afford it.
The audience asked a bunch of questions. In general the audience was pretty rowdy like they were in a stadium. I broke out into clapping myself a couple times.
#1 Most absurd point: One man or one small organization is trying to represent the "interests" of all authors and publishers as if they were aligned with the same reasoning.
#2 Its ultimately a question of "What is fair use?". Both sides agree to fair use but both have different definitions of fair-use.
#3 My solution to the book scanning project might revolve around something like an international public toll road. If Google will build it as a private company, once they get back their investment (and return), the road could then become free. The data would move out of the control of the Google business and into a world body control like the UN.
#4 I predict that in less than 200 years, the entire body of human work spanning thousands of years will fit in a container the size of a postage stamp and be available for the cost of a cup of coffee.